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Concave alloy wheels

What concave means, why the dish depends on the size you buy, and which designs the makers label concave.

The short answer: a concave wheel's spokes dip from the outer lip towards the hub, and how deep they dip depends on the size. Wider rims and lower offsets leave more room between the hub face and the lip, so one design can be flat in a narrow size and concave or deep concave in a wide one. Sparco's FF4 in 18" is flat at 8 to 8.5J, concave at 9 to 9.5J and deep concave at 10 to 11J.

Flat face: Sparco FF4 18 inch x 8J ET45 drawn to scale, 57 mm from the hub mounting face to the outer bead seat 57 mmFlat faceSparco FF4 18 x 8J ET45 Semi concave: Sparco FF3 18 inch x 9J ET41 drawn to scale, 73 mm from the hub mounting face to the outer bead seat 73 mmSemi concaveSparco FF3 18 x 9J ET41 Concave: Sparco FF4 18 inch x 9.5J ET33 drawn to scale, 88 mm from the hub mounting face to the outer bead seat 88 mmConcaveSparco FF4 18 x 9.5J ET33 Deep concave: Sparco FF4 18 inch x 11J ET20 drawn to scale, 120 mm from the hub mounting face to the outer bead seat 120 mmDeep concaveSparco FF4 18 x 11J ET20
Four real Sparco sizes drawn to scale as full cross-sections, street side on the right. The labels are Sparco’s own. The figure above each one is the room from the hub mounting face (violet) to the outer bead seat: the more room, the deeper the face.

What “concave” means

Concave describes the shape of a wheel's face, not its colour or finish. On a flat-faced wheel the spokes run more or less straight from the lip to the centre. On a concave wheel they sweep inwards, so the centre sits deeper than the rim edge and the face looks like a shallow bowl.

Makers that label it tend to use steps. OZ Group's stock list uses four: flat, semi concave, concave and deep concave. Those labels belong to an exact size, not to a design as a whole. That's the part most concave guides miss.

Why width and offset change the dish

The hub mounting face sits somewhere inside the barrel. How far it sits from the outer edge depends on two numbers:

  • Width (J): a wider rim puts the outer lip further from the middle of the wheel.
  • Offset (ET): a lower offset moves the mounting face further inboard, away from the outer lip.

As a rough guide, the room between the mounting face and the outer bead seat is half the rim width in millimetres, minus the offset:

SizeRough room, mounting face to outer bead seat
8J ET45about 57 mm (101.6 minus 45)
9.5J ET20about 101 mm (120.7 minus 20)
11J ET20about 120 mm (139.7 minus 20)

More room lets the maker sweep the spokes deeper before they reach the hub. That's why the same design gets more dish as it gets wider or as its offset drops.

It's a rule of thumb, not a formula. Each size has its own casting and machining, and the maker decides how much of the room to use. The MSW 51 in 22" shows it: the 10.5J at ET45 has a little less room (about 88 mm) than the 10J at ET36 (about 91 mm), yet MSW label the 10.5J concave and the 10J flat. The only sure answer is the maker's label for the exact size.

The makers' own labels, size by size

These come straight from OZ Group's stock list, which covers OZ Racing, MSW and Sparco. Only four designs carry face-profile labels in it, and the list only covers the sizes in stock when it was issued. A size missing from these tables isn't necessarily flat. It just isn't labelled.

Sparco FF4, 18"

WidthOffsets labelledFace
8JET25 to 45Flat
8.5JET30 to 47Flat
9JET30 to 48Concave
9.5JET20 to 45Concave
10JET17 to 25Deep concave
10.5JET7 to 35Deep concave
11JET20 to 44Deep concave

Here width is what moves the label: every 9J and 9.5J is concave, and every 10J and wider is deep concave, whatever the offset.

Sparco FF3, 18" to 20"

SizeOffsets labelledFace
18 x 8JET25 to 45Flat
18 x 8.5JET30 to 47Flat
18 x 9JET30 to 48Semi concave
18 x 9.5JET20 to 45Semi concave
19 x 8JET40 to 45Flat
19 x 8.5JET40 to 50Flat
19 x 8.5JET25Concave
19 x 9JET20 to 24Concave
19 x 9.5JET20 to 38Concave
20 x 10.5JET20Deep concave

The 19 x 8.5J shows offset at work: at ET40 to 50 it's flat, and at ET25 the same width is concave.

MSW 51, 22"

WidthOffsets labelledFace
9J, 9.5JET29 to 49No profile label
10JET36 to 56Flat
10JET18 to 28Concave
10.5JET18 to 45Concave
11JET15 to 50Concave
11.5JET14 to 61Concave

The list carries no profile label for the MSW 51 in 20" or 21".

MSW 53

Labelled concave in 10.5 x 21" and 10.5 x 22" at ET19. Its 8J and 9J sizes in 19" carry no profile label.

Concave on a staggered car

Staggered cars run a wider wheel on the back (see staggered vs square). Because the face depth follows the width, the back wheels can come out with more dish than the fronts on the same design. Take a Sparco FF4 set in 18 x 8.5J front and 18 x 9.5J rear: by Sparco's own labels, the fronts are flat-faced and the rears are concave.

Some people want exactly that look. Others want the fronts and rears to match. If it matters, check the label for both sizes before ordering.

What concave changes about fitment

Fitment still starts with PCD, centre bore, width and the offset range the car accepts at each axle. Check a setup with the wheel fitment calculator, and see where the face will sit against the arch with the camber and spacer calculator. But a concave face changes two things.

Concave wheels have less brake clearance

A concave spoke dips in towards the hub before it sweeps out to the lip. Where it passes the caliper, the back of the spoke sits further in than a flat-faced spoke would on the same size and offset, so there is less room between spoke and caliper. The deeper the concave, the less room.

The same 19 by 9J ET35 wheel size over the same caliper with two spoke shapes: a flat-faced spoke leaves a wide gap to the caliper, a concave spoke (dashed) curves in towards the hub and leaves a much smaller gap flat faceconcave:less roomSame size, same offset, same caliper.The concave spoke passes closer to the caliper.
The same 19 x 9J ET35 wheel size over the same caliper, with two spoke shapes. Solid: a flat-faced spoke. Dashed: a concave spoke, which runs much closer to the caliper. Illustrative profiles, close to scale.

With a big brake kit, or a car with large factory calipers, check the exact wheel and size against the caliper before buying. See big brake kit wheel clearance.

A deeper dish usually means a lower offset

A lower offset moves the whole wheel and tyre out towards the arch. On most cars the arch is the real limit, not the dish.

Questions

What is a concave alloy wheel?
A wheel whose spokes curve inwards from the outer lip towards the hub, so the centre sits deeper than the rim edge.
Why is the same wheel concave in one size and flat in another?
Width and offset set how much room there is between the hub mounting face and the outer lip. Wider rims and lower offsets give more room, so makers make those sizes with a deeper face. Sparco's FF4 in 18 inch is flat at 8 to 8.5J, concave at 9 to 9.5J and deep concave at 10 to 11J.
Do concave wheels need spacers?
Not for the look itself. Whether a wheel needs a spacer depends on its offset and the car's offset range. A spacer can win back room between a concave spoke and a big caliper, as long as the new effective offset still sits inside the car's range.
Do concave wheels have less brake clearance?
Yes. A concave spoke curves in towards the hub, so it passes closer to the caliper than a flat-faced spoke on the same size and offset, and the deeper the concave, the less room there is. With a big brake kit or large factory calipers, check the exact wheel and size against the caliper before buying.
Which wheels do the makers label concave?
In OZ Group's stock list: Sparco FF4 (18 inch, 9J and wider), Sparco FF3 (wider 18, 19 and 20 inch sizes), MSW 51 (22 inch, 10.5J and wider, plus 10J at lower offsets) and MSW 53 (10.5J in 21 and 22 inch).

Sources

  • OZ Group stock list (OZ Racing, MSW, Sparco), April 2026: face profile labelled per size (flat, semi concave, concave, deep concave).
  • Room figures: half the rim width in millimetres (width in inches x 25.4 / 2) minus the offset, measured to the bead seat and ignoring the outer flange.
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